立川勘兵衛Ietoshi忠実義士のロフトでのサムライ（忠臣蔵の義士のメイメイデン）、一連のストーリーから (1843-47) by Utagawa Yoshitora
“Queen of the Black Coast” plate by Stephen Fabian.
No matter what you like or what you do someone somewhere won’t like it, fuck em, they probably don’t even have a good reason
Tokapi Palace grounds, Istanbul
In the old days, pre-Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd played to audiences which, by virtue of their size allowed an intimacy of connection that was magical. However, success overtook us and by 1977 we were playing in football stadiums. The magic crushed beneath the weight of numbers, we were becoming addicted to the trappings of popularity.
I found myself increasingly alienated in that atmosphere of avarice and ego until one night in the Olympic Stadium, Montreal. Some crazed teenage fan was clawing his way up the storm netting that separated us from the human cattle pen in front of the stage, screaming his devotion to the “demi-gods” beyond his reach.
Incensed by his misunderstanding and my own connivance, I spat my frustration in his face. Later that night, back at the hotel, shocked by my behavior, I was faced with a choice. To deny my addiction and embrace that “comfortably numb” but “magic-less” existence or accept the burden of insight, take the road less traveled and embark on the often painful journey to discover who I was and where I fit.
The Wall was the picture I drew for myself to help me make that choice.
|—||Roger Waters, Summer 1995. Written on The Wall exhibit in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. (via adorablebonzo)|
It still baffles me that people are voting NO on a patriotic whim. Because they are proud to be British. How the fuck can anyone be proud to be British? We live in an age where any information is available at the touch of a button, all you need to do is google “British war crimes.”
Y’know, have your own political views, that’s what freedom of speech and expression is about. But anyone who is proud to be British is fucking deluded in my opinion. This union was built on the suffering of millions, not comradeship or brotherhood.
Okay this is a terrible argument.
If you honestly believe everyone should eschew any pride in their country because of past wrongdoings then you should eschew pride in Scotland as well because Scotland is a part of the country responsible for British war crimes, and there were Scottish soldiers and administrators at the helm of imperialism along with English people. Britain only exists because of the joint responsibilities and histories of it’s constituent nations.
You can’t just set a line and pretend the individual nations are innocent while you dump blame solely on the country those nations make up that you happen to not like. Or worse, perhaps you’re implying England should bare all the blame for those war crimes, but don’t do that, that would be pretty fucking deluded. Scotland was a partner of England; by contrast, Ireland was in a subordinate position as a separate kingdom and colony to England and then Britain.
Now if you want to challenge the concept of pride in one’s nation period, there is an argument for that. If you wanted to argue that modern countries are made up of a generation that is entirely innocent of past crimes, there is an argument for that. However your current argument is just based on a double standard and filled with contradictions.
Also, it’s a bit odd to suggest the Acts of Union were built ‘on the suffering of millions.’ Both countries already had their own imperialistic ambitions: England already had imperial possessions, and Scotland had the Darien Scheme. Both countries would have continued their imperialism independently, because that’s what all countries with the power to do so tried to do at the time. You might as well say all countries are built on the suffering of millions, because all countries have exploited and made attempts to exploit others. I guess you could argue the Union might have created a country better capable of imperialism, but in that sense it helped Scotland’s designs at an empire much more than it helped England, which already had overseas possessions and thriving network of colonies. The Union simply allowed Scotland to benefit from that.
I’d argue it had more to do with the already existing Union of the Crowns, fear on each country’s side of the other making enemy alliances, and financial interests on Scotland’s part.
P.S. I’m not one side or the other on the Yes/No question.
This entire response was made under the assumption I had said Scotland was blame free, Scotland is a better place and Scottish people are better. Except I didn’t say that, did I? If you can highlight any point in my original text post where I had said Scotland was innocent of any wrongdoing, please do so.
Also, dump the blame solely on England? Last I looked, Britain was a union of nations. Union is the key word that I used here and in the original post, a union requires two or more things, in this case two or more countries. I never said English war crimes, I said British war crimes. I’m well aware of the role Scotland has played in Britain’s conquests and I’m pretty ashamed of it, to be honest, I tend to not jump to national pride as quickly as I did when I was younger because of my nation’s partnership with England that is Britain.
The point you raise about Scotland’s own imperialistic ambitions is interesting, I was never even aware of the Darien scheme, I suppose how monumental of a fuck up it was, is why I’ve never heard of it.
I assume when you wrote this post, you guessed I was a rabid English hating nationalist whom thinks Scotland above all others. I’m not deluded. So, therefore my argument that British pride (not English pride, because Britain involves more than one nation) is ridiculous, still stands.
“Before our white brothers arrived to make us civilized men, we didn’t have any kind of prison.
Because of this, we had no delinquents.
Without a prison, there can be no delinquents.
We had no locks nor keys and therefore among us there were no thieves.
When someone was so poor that he couldn’t afford a horse, a tent or a blanket, he would, in that case, receive it all as a gift.
We were too uncivilized to give great importance to private property.
We didn’t know any kind of money and consequently, the value of a human being was not determined by his wealth.
We had no written laws laid down, no lawyers, no politicians, therefore we were not able to cheat and swindle one another.
We were really in bad shape before the white men arrived and I don’t know how to explain how we were able to manage without these fundamental things that (so they tell us) are so necessary for a civilized society."
— John (Fire) Lame Deer